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		<title>By: bs angel</title>
		<link>http://hawtymcbloggy.com/2008/03/01/the-cleaned-console-fiasco/#comment-23747</link>
		<dc:creator>bs angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 04:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is the exact reason why I did an article separate from the other one, so there was a place for productive discussion. The other article has entirely too many comments to carry on constructive conversation, but this one is nice and cozy. 

Thanks for sharing your opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is the exact reason why I did an article separate from the other one, so there was a place for productive discussion. The other article has entirely too many comments to carry on constructive conversation, but this one is nice and cozy. </p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: maxmorin</title>
		<link>http://hawtymcbloggy.com/2008/03/01/the-cleaned-console-fiasco/#comment-23744</link>
		<dc:creator>maxmorin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 03:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa, the comments here are very good.  Its a very informative discussion.  But I think that ultimately bs angel is correct, and everything that SpaceGhost said, really doesn&#039;t matter.  Because as a customer, if you are told that the custom artwork on your case will be preserved, then it should be preserved.

I think that bs angel is right, that if you are told that something will happen, it should happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, the comments here are very good.  Its a very informative discussion.  But I think that ultimately bs angel is correct, and everything that SpaceGhost said, really doesn&#8217;t matter.  Because as a customer, if you are told that the custom artwork on your case will be preserved, then it should be preserved.</p>
<p>I think that bs angel is right, that if you are told that something will happen, it should happen.</p>
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		<title>By: The Cleaned Console Fiasco - WiiTalk - The Complete Nintendo Wii Resource</title>
		<link>http://hawtymcbloggy.com/2008/03/01/the-cleaned-console-fiasco/#comment-23676</link>
		<dc:creator>The Cleaned Console Fiasco - WiiTalk - The Complete Nintendo Wii Resource</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cleaned Console Fiasco     Whilst randomly wandering the Internet, I came across a blog titled The Cleaned Console Fiasco.  I found this really shocking, how could someone not realise what it is, or how could they possibly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Cleaned Console Fiasco     Whilst randomly wandering the Internet, I came across a blog titled The Cleaned Console Fiasco.  I found this really shocking, how could someone not realise what it is, or how could they possibly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: madBOX20</title>
		<link>http://hawtymcbloggy.com/2008/03/01/the-cleaned-console-fiasco/#comment-23669</link>
		<dc:creator>madBOX20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the sad news is by the time they figure out what to do and actually do it. Nathaniel will have to turn in his xbox for repair again with the RRoD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the sad news is by the time they figure out what to do and actually do it. Nathaniel will have to turn in his xbox for repair again with the RRoD.</p>
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		<title>By: El Burritoh</title>
		<link>http://hawtymcbloggy.com/2008/03/01/the-cleaned-console-fiasco/#comment-23635</link>
		<dc:creator>El Burritoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 04:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey!

Bungie is solving this fiasco themselves! Here&#039;s the story on Next-Gen.biz:

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=9389&amp;Itemid=2

Says Brian Jarrard:
&quot;Something is already &#039;afoot&#039; within Bungie to help our community member in need,&quot; Bungie community director Brian Jarrard told Next-Gen on Monday. &quot;Our team and the community as a whole is rallying to help fix this unfortunate situation. It’s been awesome to see such an outpouring of sympathy and support from our community. We can&#039;t replace the exact item that was lost but, but we should come very close.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey!</p>
<p>Bungie is solving this fiasco themselves! Here&#8217;s the story on Next-Gen.biz:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=9389&amp;Itemid=2" rel="nofollow">http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=9389&amp;Itemid=2</a></p>
<p>Says Brian Jarrard:<br />
&#8220;Something is already &#8216;afoot&#8217; within Bungie to help our community member in need,&#8221; Bungie community director Brian Jarrard told Next-Gen on Monday. &#8220;Our team and the community as a whole is rallying to help fix this unfortunate situation. It’s been awesome to see such an outpouring of sympathy and support from our community. We can&#8217;t replace the exact item that was lost but, but we should come very close.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ragingterror</title>
		<link>http://hawtymcbloggy.com/2008/03/01/the-cleaned-console-fiasco/#comment-23626</link>
		<dc:creator>Ragingterror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>---Make it an event! Set up cameras and sell tickets to civilians on the street. We could even have Nathaniel himself pull a gigantic lever which causes balloons and confetti to rain down with a big sign that says “Hey! You’re Fired!---

You make this sound alarmingly festive...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8212;Make it an event! Set up cameras and sell tickets to civilians on the street. We could even have Nathaniel himself pull a gigantic lever which causes balloons and confetti to rain down with a big sign that says “Hey! You’re Fired!&#8212;</p>
<p>You make this sound alarmingly festive&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: -S-</title>
		<link>http://hawtymcbloggy.com/2008/03/01/the-cleaned-console-fiasco/#comment-23574</link>
		<dc:creator>-S-</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the PREVIOUS article about this, containing Nathaniel&#039;s original story, I made many long posts/arguments.  I&#039;ll make it short, but it&#039;s still very simple.  

1) SpaceGhost is right - the company policy is what it is, and the wiper did nothing wrong.

2) Angel is right - the MS employee who spoke to Nathaniel on the phone and made false promises is wrong for &#039;telling the customer whatever he wanted to hear&#039;, without actual knowledge of the policy/not giving proper information regarding the policy.  

Wanna know how we fix that? FIRE the damned Phone Employee.  Seriously, bring &#039;em before the higher powers at MS, and can &#039;em in front of everybody.  

SpaceGhost&#039;s story back at post 1 is another classic tale of the customer getting screwed.  Random employee promises something, customer left holding the bag, company has written in stone policy so they have done no wrong. FIRE
FIRE
FIRE the employee.  That made the false promises.  It&#039;s so simple - apologize to the customer who got the shit end of the stick, and have them watch as you fire the employee that decided to talk a big game without backing up the rules.  Do the right thing and set an example.  It&#039;s really unfortunate that big companies get away with crap like this, because hey, its the policy. 

 Well I can agree with that, MS is a gigantic corporation and they need to stand by their policy to do business continuously, bc they most likely have millions of problems to deal with daily.  However, that doesn&#039;t mean that we can&#039;t set an example so shit like this doesn&#039;t continue to happen (and more importantly, we dont do something as unbelievably retarded as blaming the victim&#039;.  FIRE the employee who made promises.  

Make it an event! Set up cameras and sell tickets to civilians on the street.  We could even have Nathaniel himself pull a gigantic lever which causes balloons and confetti to rain down with a big sign that says &quot;Hey! You&#039;re Fired!&quot; 

The customer comes FIRST.
Negligence in the area of distributing information/lying to the customer should result in PENALTY, so it is no longer encouraged/accepted in &#039;too big to care about the little guy&#039; business.
The Factory worker wiping down consoles is not to blame.
The MS employee who spoke to Nathaniel on the phone IS to blame.

Do not argue with me.  I&#039;m totally cereal about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the PREVIOUS article about this, containing Nathaniel&#8217;s original story, I made many long posts/arguments.  I&#8217;ll make it short, but it&#8217;s still very simple.  </p>
<p>1) SpaceGhost is right &#8211; the company policy is what it is, and the wiper did nothing wrong.</p>
<p>2) Angel is right &#8211; the MS employee who spoke to Nathaniel on the phone and made false promises is wrong for &#8216;telling the customer whatever he wanted to hear&#8217;, without actual knowledge of the policy/not giving proper information regarding the policy.  </p>
<p>Wanna know how we fix that? FIRE the damned Phone Employee.  Seriously, bring &#8216;em before the higher powers at MS, and can &#8216;em in front of everybody.  </p>
<p>SpaceGhost&#8217;s story back at post 1 is another classic tale of the customer getting screwed.  Random employee promises something, customer left holding the bag, company has written in stone policy so they have done no wrong. FIRE<br />
FIRE<br />
FIRE the employee.  That made the false promises.  It&#8217;s so simple &#8211; apologize to the customer who got the shit end of the stick, and have them watch as you fire the employee that decided to talk a big game without backing up the rules.  Do the right thing and set an example.  It&#8217;s really unfortunate that big companies get away with crap like this, because hey, its the policy. </p>
<p> Well I can agree with that, MS is a gigantic corporation and they need to stand by their policy to do business continuously, bc they most likely have millions of problems to deal with daily.  However, that doesn&#8217;t mean that we can&#8217;t set an example so shit like this doesn&#8217;t continue to happen (and more importantly, we dont do something as unbelievably retarded as blaming the victim&#8217;.  FIRE the employee who made promises.  </p>
<p>Make it an event! Set up cameras and sell tickets to civilians on the street.  We could even have Nathaniel himself pull a gigantic lever which causes balloons and confetti to rain down with a big sign that says &#8220;Hey! You&#8217;re Fired!&#8221; </p>
<p>The customer comes FIRST.<br />
Negligence in the area of distributing information/lying to the customer should result in PENALTY, so it is no longer encouraged/accepted in &#8216;too big to care about the little guy&#8217; business.<br />
The Factory worker wiping down consoles is not to blame.<br />
The MS employee who spoke to Nathaniel on the phone IS to blame.</p>
<p>Do not argue with me.  I&#8217;m totally cereal about this.</p>
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		<title>By: kilaMOMjaro</title>
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		<dc:creator>kilaMOMjaro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for you SpaceGhost! A Mgr SHOULD be able to make those decisions for the customer. It reminds me of the Nordstrom policy...they tell their employees that 

1) the customer comes first 

2) When in doubt, see number 1

Thats the whole policy! (it was when i was there at least =] )

My original GT was taken from me because of the breakdown in communication at Microsoft. It meant a lot to me but after months of tryng I could NOT get them to give it to me, even though it was the fault of a M$ employee.

Ah well. I hope the console situation gets resolved!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for you SpaceGhost! A Mgr SHOULD be able to make those decisions for the customer. It reminds me of the Nordstrom policy&#8230;they tell their employees that </p>
<p>1) the customer comes first </p>
<p>2) When in doubt, see number 1</p>
<p>Thats the whole policy! (it was when i was there at least =] )</p>
<p>My original GT was taken from me because of the breakdown in communication at Microsoft. It meant a lot to me but after months of tryng I could NOT get them to give it to me, even though it was the fault of a M$ employee.</p>
<p>Ah well. I hope the console situation gets resolved!</p>
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		<title>By: agdTinMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>agdTinMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In most cases, there are three or four parts on an Xbox that are just swapped out. They’re not going to spend labor dollars repairing solder joints, and putting $300 in labor into a $100 motherboard.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The consumer shouldn&#039;t be required to know the intricacies of the repair process.  If the consumer is told it&#039;s ok to send his xbox back and that the signatures, drawings, etc. will be preserved, he has every right to expect this.

It is not the consumer&#039;s place to  SECOND GUESS THE COMPANY, or to &quot;KNOW BETTER&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In most cases, there are three or four parts on an Xbox that are just swapped out. They’re not going to spend labor dollars repairing solder joints, and putting $300 in labor into a $100 motherboard.</p></blockquote>
<p>The consumer shouldn&#8217;t be required to know the intricacies of the repair process.  If the consumer is told it&#8217;s ok to send his xbox back and that the signatures, drawings, etc. will be preserved, he has every right to expect this.</p>
<p>It is not the consumer&#8217;s place to  SECOND GUESS THE COMPANY, or to &#8220;KNOW BETTER&#8221;!</p>
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