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	<title>Comments on: Re: One Gamer’s Experience and Perspective on Female Gamers</title>
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		<title>By: Waffle Deluxe</title>
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		<title>By: bs angel</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nshadowsong</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nshadowsong</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a response to Excardon&#039;s article, but I wanted to post it on your blog also because I like the point you bring up ^_^ Cheers!
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I&#039;m glad you bring into light some solid points. I am a female gamer and when I do play games, say like on Xbox live or over the net, I don&#039;t try to call attention to my gender. I have been playing since I was a wee&#039;bitt, starting with the NES and have continued doing so. Although I’ve played many genres, FPS is and has always been my favorite. However, that is also where I witness the friction between genders/gamers the most. It wasn&#039;t until I started playing Counter-Strike 1.5 and later on a clan that I really started to notice the two &quot;typical males&quot; you talk about: 1) the ones who can&#039;t shut it about the cat calls and sexist jokes 2) the ones who can&#039;t stop the woman-bashing. 

As with all games, you need to consider the type of games it is and the kinda players involved. Definitely, not all guys are like that and there are some awesome players out there. Certainly the FPS is still a genre catered towards males simply because of its nature. But I&#039;ve noticed in games like World of Warcraft, where the content caters towards both sexes, the presence of those kinda guys and their kinda talk has been practically nonexistent in my experience. Maybe one of the reasons for that is because the nature of WoW gets you into the mindset of Alliace or Horde, or Paladin/Warrior/Priest, etc. But that&#039;s another topic for another day. Excuse my ranting @_@&quot;

BS Angel brings up a point when she says:
&quot;An opponent is an opponent, plain and simple. I hope that attitude is a universal one instead of a rarity. I have faith that other people shoot virtual bullets indiscriminately as I do.&quot;

As a female gamer, I want my opponents and teammates to judge me not by my gender, but by my ability to play the game, my ability to play on the team, and my ability to strategize, know when to follow the leader, and know when to lead. I personally want to earn the respect when it comes to serious gaming with teammates. 

Sure, there are things you need to overcome first if you are a female gamer at times, like initial impressions, or the cat calls, or the sexist jokes--whatever. Because of the bias that exists, you may have to double the effort to &quot;earn the respect&quot; of your teammates as they say. This is not only limited to gaming, but to our society at large. I think women in general feel that they need to prove themselves more because of the social constructions we put on ideas of maleness or femaleness that already exist in the country. So it is no surprise to me that female gamers can feel so similarly.

Then again, now that things like XBL chat exists, or Skype, Vent, basically any kind of program that allows for in-game chat, we have to consider our perceptions of people from different ethnicity and age. You bring up the point about noticing people with accent, people who may be young or old. I think we have to check ourselves from perpetuating stereotypes based on these things. We also need to remind ourselves that these things don’t define a group of people as a whole. Whether it is a female, a Mexican, a child, an Asian, a man, whoever it is, we need to remind ourselves that however they play and however they may act in-game is not representative of their gender, ethnicity, age group as a whole. We can’t fall back into stereotypes. 

In the idealistic gaming world, I think people should be judged on their gaming, thinking, and communication skills.  

In the era of the Wii, DS, casual games, and even comics becoming more accepted in Hollywood, I think the public in general is becoming more receptive of video games. So I think this certainly helps to start diluting these stereotypes in the gaming community.

As a person who wants to see the gaming community grow and be accepted by the public at large, not just as a hobby that little kids play, but as a viable form of entertainment, I can get pretty passionate about issues like these. I want to see gaming move forward positively in every aspect if possible. If it going to be a respectable, acceptable, and genuine source of competition, entertainment, and hobby, we need to keep ourselves from falling into and furthering stereotypes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a response to Excardon&#8217;s article, but I wanted to post it on your blog also because I like the point you bring up ^_^ Cheers!<br />
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I&#8217;m glad you bring into light some solid points. I am a female gamer and when I do play games, say like on Xbox live or over the net, I don&#8217;t try to call attention to my gender. I have been playing since I was a wee&#8217;bitt, starting with the NES and have continued doing so. Although I’ve played many genres, FPS is and has always been my favorite. However, that is also where I witness the friction between genders/gamers the most. It wasn&#8217;t until I started playing Counter-Strike 1.5 and later on a clan that I really started to notice the two &#8220;typical males&#8221; you talk about: 1) the ones who can&#8217;t shut it about the cat calls and sexist jokes 2) the ones who can&#8217;t stop the woman-bashing. </p>
<p>As with all games, you need to consider the type of games it is and the kinda players involved. Definitely, not all guys are like that and there are some awesome players out there. Certainly the FPS is still a genre catered towards males simply because of its nature. But I&#8217;ve noticed in games like World of Warcraft, where the content caters towards both sexes, the presence of those kinda guys and their kinda talk has been practically nonexistent in my experience. Maybe one of the reasons for that is because the nature of WoW gets you into the mindset of Alliace or Horde, or Paladin/Warrior/Priest, etc. But that&#8217;s another topic for another day. Excuse my ranting @_@&#8221;</p>
<p>BS Angel brings up a point when she says:<br />
&#8220;An opponent is an opponent, plain and simple. I hope that attitude is a universal one instead of a rarity. I have faith that other people shoot virtual bullets indiscriminately as I do.&#8221;</p>
<p>As a female gamer, I want my opponents and teammates to judge me not by my gender, but by my ability to play the game, my ability to play on the team, and my ability to strategize, know when to follow the leader, and know when to lead. I personally want to earn the respect when it comes to serious gaming with teammates. </p>
<p>Sure, there are things you need to overcome first if you are a female gamer at times, like initial impressions, or the cat calls, or the sexist jokes&#8211;whatever. Because of the bias that exists, you may have to double the effort to &#8220;earn the respect&#8221; of your teammates as they say. This is not only limited to gaming, but to our society at large. I think women in general feel that they need to prove themselves more because of the social constructions we put on ideas of maleness or femaleness that already exist in the country. So it is no surprise to me that female gamers can feel so similarly.</p>
<p>Then again, now that things like XBL chat exists, or Skype, Vent, basically any kind of program that allows for in-game chat, we have to consider our perceptions of people from different ethnicity and age. You bring up the point about noticing people with accent, people who may be young or old. I think we have to check ourselves from perpetuating stereotypes based on these things. We also need to remind ourselves that these things don’t define a group of people as a whole. Whether it is a female, a Mexican, a child, an Asian, a man, whoever it is, we need to remind ourselves that however they play and however they may act in-game is not representative of their gender, ethnicity, age group as a whole. We can’t fall back into stereotypes. </p>
<p>In the idealistic gaming world, I think people should be judged on their gaming, thinking, and communication skills.  </p>
<p>In the era of the Wii, DS, casual games, and even comics becoming more accepted in Hollywood, I think the public in general is becoming more receptive of video games. So I think this certainly helps to start diluting these stereotypes in the gaming community.</p>
<p>As a person who wants to see the gaming community grow and be accepted by the public at large, not just as a hobby that little kids play, but as a viable form of entertainment, I can get pretty passionate about issues like these. I want to see gaming move forward positively in every aspect if possible. If it going to be a respectable, acceptable, and genuine source of competition, entertainment, and hobby, we need to keep ourselves from falling into and furthering stereotypes.</p>
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		<title>By: Florence Elsley</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK I know this is a pretty old post and I&#039;m just commenting on it now. I just thought I&#039;d leave my comments too. I&#039;m not really an Xbox/Xbox360 Live player (yet but soon to be) I usually play Playstation 2 and 3 games. One of my very first online experience in Playstation was playing Socom I. I was practically one of the first female players to ever log on that game since I got it the same day it came out, logged on and played it as soon as I got it (Yes... I took a vacation day from work that day!). At first it was pretty hard being a female player in a male-dominated Online game. I hear guys yelling at me on my first day because I cant kill people it was frustrating at first, but after a few logons and watching other people play, I caught on pretty quick (within 48 hours) and started owning people. Its crazy how guys react to female gamers... it&#039;s a love-hate experience for me. Most guys practically worshiped me and became my groupie...LOL yes as dumb as that may sound...it&#039;s true. This is because I was one of the best female gamers in that Online community. Other guys practically cursed me out and talk trash, and I&#039;m not even gonna post what names I&#039;ve been called. Back in Socom 1 female gamers are very limited, then again I was just speaking about one game. I don&#039;t know what other online games came out then. 

After Socom 2 came out, (met my husband in Socom 1) and had a baby around the end of Socom 2, I rarely played. All those years I&#039;ve seen how the online gaming community are welcoming more and more female players! I was so excited! That&#039;s why I love this blog... having someone who is a mom and a gamer makes me think how awesome us female gamers can be. I&#039;ve seen other female games online when I started playing Socom 3 and I tell ya... there is at least 2-3 females in 1 clan, that&#039;s not counting clanless female gamers. I&#039;m really really excited about this! Oh and you know online girl Cat fights happen... I know because I&#039;ve seen one surface while I was on the same team and in the opposite team. How competitive us women can be when it comes to Online Gaming...it&#039;s hillarious and inspiring!

Okay so much for my loooong rant. Girl Gamers Rule!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK I know this is a pretty old post and I&#8217;m just commenting on it now. I just thought I&#8217;d leave my comments too. I&#8217;m not really an Xbox/Xbox360 Live player (yet but soon to be) I usually play Playstation 2 and 3 games. One of my very first online experience in Playstation was playing Socom I. I was practically one of the first female players to ever log on that game since I got it the same day it came out, logged on and played it as soon as I got it (Yes&#8230; I took a vacation day from work that day!). At first it was pretty hard being a female player in a male-dominated Online game. I hear guys yelling at me on my first day because I cant kill people it was frustrating at first, but after a few logons and watching other people play, I caught on pretty quick (within 48 hours) and started owning people. Its crazy how guys react to female gamers&#8230; it&#8217;s a love-hate experience for me. Most guys practically worshiped me and became my groupie&#8230;LOL yes as dumb as that may sound&#8230;it&#8217;s true. This is because I was one of the best female gamers in that Online community. Other guys practically cursed me out and talk trash, and I&#8217;m not even gonna post what names I&#8217;ve been called. Back in Socom 1 female gamers are very limited, then again I was just speaking about one game. I don&#8217;t know what other online games came out then. </p>
<p>After Socom 2 came out, (met my husband in Socom 1) and had a baby around the end of Socom 2, I rarely played. All those years I&#8217;ve seen how the online gaming community are welcoming more and more female players! I was so excited! That&#8217;s why I love this blog&#8230; having someone who is a mom and a gamer makes me think how awesome us female gamers can be. I&#8217;ve seen other female games online when I started playing Socom 3 and I tell ya&#8230; there is at least 2-3 females in 1 clan, that&#8217;s not counting clanless female gamers. I&#8217;m really really excited about this! Oh and you know online girl Cat fights happen&#8230; I know because I&#8217;ve seen one surface while I was on the same team and in the opposite team. How competitive us women can be when it comes to Online Gaming&#8230;it&#8217;s hillarious and inspiring!</p>
<p>Okay so much for my loooong rant. Girl Gamers Rule!</p>
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